Crypto staking may create tax planning opportunities if staking rewards are not taxed until the tokens are sold. The core issue is whether rewards from staking should be treated as taxable income when received or only when disposed of, and the transcript presents an IRS position that taxation may be deferred until sale.
Staking involves taking a crypto asset and locking or securing it in a protocol. The tokens are typically used for network security, although the distinction can become blurred depending on the protocol. In return, the holder earns additional tokens.
This is compared to interest, but with an important difference: the reward is paid in tokens rather than cash.
The tax argument discussed is that staking rewards should be treated similarly to crops grown by a farmer. A farmer who plants seeds and grows crops is not taxed when the crop appears; tax applies when the crop is sold. The argument is that staking rewards should be treated the same way because the holder has not sold or exchanged the tokens yet.
The transcript states that the IRS had just announced that staking gains would not be taxed until the tokens are sold. This was described as unexpected, because the speaker had expected the IRS to treat the rewards as taxable when received.
Why this matters for crypto investors
If staking rewards are not taxed until sale, crypto holders may be able to compound their portfolios more efficiently.
The reason is that token rewards can accumulate without an immediate tax drag. The investor’s portfolio may grow in token terms even if the market price moves up or down. This can be especially important for long-term holders who do not want to sell.
The potential benefit is greater than in traditional farming because crypto tokens:
- do not expire like crops;
- can potentially be used as collateral;
- may be integrated into lending and borrowing protocols;
- can sometimes be used in liquid staking or DeFi strategies.
Ethereum and liquid staking example
One example discussed is Ethereum.
A holder could deposit ETH into a liquid staking protocol such as Lido. In return, the holder receives a liquid staking token representing the staked ETH position. The transcript refers to this as “Lido ETH.”
At the time described, ETH staked for Ethereum 2.0 could not be withdrawn directly, but the liquid staking token could still represent the staked position and potentially be used elsewhere.
The investor could then use the staking rewards or liquid staking tokens in other protocols. One example mentioned is MakerDAO, where assets may be deposited to mint DAI or otherwise access liquidity.
Borrowing against staking rewards
A key planning idea is using staking rewards or liquid staking positions as collateral rather than selling them.
A possible structure described is:
- Stake tokens and earn yield.
- Use the yield or liquid staking version of the tokens as collateral.
- Borrow against that collateral.
- Use part of the borrowed funds to reinvest or maintain the position.
- Use other funds for spending or other purposes.
The idea is that the investor may access liquidity without selling the tokens. If no sale occurs, the transcript argues that tax may be deferred.
The strategy could also be structured so that yield helps cover interest costs on the borrowing. In that case, the position may potentially support itself while still giving the investor access to cash or stablecoin liquidity.
Compounding advantage
The main advantage is compounding.
If staking rewards are not taxed immediately, the investor may be able to keep more tokens working inside the portfolio. Over time, this could increase the rate at which the crypto position grows.
This differs from a situation where rewards are taxed as soon as they are received. Immediate taxation would require the investor either to use other cash to pay the tax or sell part of the token reward, reducing the amount available to compound.
Caveats and risks
The transcript notes that the IRS could later challenge some of these strategies, especially where borrowing, reinvestment, and spending are used to access economic value without a sale.
The discussion also treats the issue as developing and potentially subject to future changes. The ability to defer tax may depend on how the rules are applied, whether the tokens are sold, and how borrowing or DeFi strategies are structured.
The key practical point is that staking rewards, liquid staking tokens, borrowing, and tax timing are separate issues. A holder may be able to earn tokens, borrow against them, and compound the position, but the tax treatment can depend on whether a taxable sale or exchange occurs.
For crypto investors, the potential benefit is the ability to earn yield and grow a position in token terms while delaying tax until sale. This can make staking more attractive for long-term holders, especially when combined with liquid staking and collateralized borrowing strategies.





